However from what I gather of Chthon he is kinda like the 'boss' of the elder gods for example he created the Darkholde and ias such is responsible for the creation of vampire, werewolves and other monsters. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. In the comics, Chthon is an Elder God of chaos and the author of the Darkhold. Galactus (average. . Team Dormammu cyttorak>Zom>Chthon>Shuma Gorath>Dormammu=>Umar. 10 years ago. Chthon – The World’s First Dark Sorcerer. Elder Gods came from Demiurge though, the first gods to ever being created, while the Old. eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. So even if Dormammu is at Odin's mercy, Dormammu could invoke the Power of Chthon or Shuma-Goarth, Cyttorak, Dweller in Darkness, etc. Chthon vs Eru Iluvatar. 10 10. Sci-fi. 1 B. Trivia. For Marvel vs. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Which is pretty meaningless though. Dormammu had the upper hand going against Odin, but the match ended in a draw. Trigon Chthon. Speed. Living Tribunal vs Dark Lords. She was a worm, and you’re too. Battle takes place in a merged dimension of the Crimson Cosmos and the dimension Chthon resides in, so both can use as much of their potential power. 1. 0. Chthon - vs - Dormammu & Knull # 12. Mordru vs Cal Belloc. Chthon and Set are Elder gods, which would put them a class ahead of the current gods and skyfathers on the DC team. Restraining HoM Wanda makes it a huge stomp for Dormammu/Mephisto duo, however, bonus round goes to team, due to HoM Wanda. Chthon Well, Jon why don't you vote cthon then? You need to be logged in to read more comments. Shuma can do the same and has far better feats in that category as far his fight with Genesis goes. Followers. Team Dark Phoenix vs Team Hulk (Green Scar) Dormammu vs Cyttorak. Register Sign in. Team One Above All vs Team Galactus. First Death Marvel Chillers #1 ( July, 1975) (as the Other) Avengers #186 ( May, 1979) (as Chthon) Scarlet Witch Annual #1 ( June, 2023) Superhero Battle match: Chthon versus Dormammu (MCU). Dormammu vs Poseidon KingOfAsh. Another reason why I think it's close is. If this is Dark Phoenix, Dormammu. Shaper Of Worlds vs Mordru. Strange is one of the few mortals that has able to withstand Chthon's demonic influence. Searching. -Takes place in a neutral realm. The Living Tribunal is one of the few characters who has beaten Thanos even with the Infinity Gauntlet in play. Tiering System: High 2-A . A Class Two demon created by Dormammu to infiltrate the Hell-Lords, Satannish is undoubtedly one of the most powerful demons to have threatened the universe – and doesn’t even make the top of our list. Dormammu is the ruler of the Dark Dimension and the archenemy of Doctor Strange. I'm going with Dormammu. . 8 Scarlet Witch Has Fallen Prey To Chthon Many Times. Vector Yu-Gi-Oh! 108 K. Bye bye Odin. She genuinely can't be beaten. He's easily Skyfather level. Chthon has often set his sights on Scarlet Witch, as her. (Kinda like Onslaught) Also, Dormammu is a pure energy being that uses physical suits time to time. If she were a lesser woman, Illyana would've crumbled under the Dread One's mystical might. He exists outside of reality, in a magical realm consisting of the Chaos Magic, allowing him. Originally written on flesh before being transcribed to stone and later a collection of parchments often referred to as the Chthon Scrolls. Mephisto only has a shot in his realm and even then Chthon could possibly pull out the win just like Galactus did in Mephisto's realm. Power. The Demiurge should in theory be. Dormammu is a. In the Marvel Arcana and Marvel Tarot arcs/one shots, it seems like he's the most powerful of the Elders (Chthon, Gaea, Oshtur, Set). Shuma. Gaea made her first appearance in Doctor Strange vol 2, published in February of June 1975. The two fought before in the comics, and Galactus easily consumed Dormammu. . When Sinifer tried to put an end to that abominable practice, they transmuted him into. Celestials vs Elder Gods. Forum Posts. Dormammu himself have battled eternity a few times, so he is on a close enough power level. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesAccording to legend, Agamotto emerged from the tear of Oshtur, benevolent Elder Goddess of Earth, as she was moved by the unyielding joy of a blind boy, circa 25,000 BC, though it is now known that Agamotto was born. Unlike other Faltine, who are normally copies of their progenitor, Dormammu and Umar desired material form for the power it provided. Trigon Zatanna (full potential)* vs. 0. Super Battle Royale - 3. but admits that he would fall if Chthon ever re-entered the universe. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. 1 / 14. The greatest mystical threat in the Marvel Universe, he often comes to. Shuma-Gorath vs Set and Chthon. . Superhero Battle match: Shuma Gorath versus Dormammu & Chthon. Register Sign in. Voting feed. The Vishanti summoned the Tribunal and he came a runnin'. And yes the invoking is how sorcerers do thier magic. 13 years ago. eternitey considers dormamu nothing to him. 8 Zarathos Thwarted Other Demons As Ghost Rider The Demon Zarathos is known to comic fans as the source of Ghost Rider 's power. 12 years ago. The best argument regarding this from what I saw is when Dormammu called upon Chthon's energies in DSSS#24, which doesn't prove anything as even LT has called upon Raggadorr for specific tasks once. 6 years ago. Death vs Death. However, Olnar was later killed by an invasion of the Mindless Ones. 0. Dr. Dormammu vs Agamotto was never shown on panel merely hinted, we dont even know where the fight took place. Team Lucifer Morningstar vs Team Rune King Thor. 2. Durability. Dormammu lent his power to Kaecilius and his Zealots, who desired immortality, in exchange for them merging the Dark Dimension with Earth. Shuma-Gorath was one of the Great Old Ones also named Many-Angled Ones. 0 / 0% Dormammu Dormammu Earth-616. For instance, when he triumphs over the combined powers of Thanos and the Silver Surfer. Wiki Points. 11. Galactus has issues with magic users, he couldn’t even beat Agamotto so Trigon/Dormammu at full power should dismantle the Galactus. Dormammu and Odin actually fought, but it was perceived as a Chessmatch to Thor. I'm not buying it. Shuma-Gorath is actually a Marvel character inspired by Lovecraft's work, and he's way above the Celestials. In fact Chthon shit his pants from Demogorge. Imperiex Doctor fate powered by Nabu* vs. Great fight though, could go either way. Last seen being annoyed into. Super Battle Royale - 33. As the God of Chaos, Chthon is largely responsible for creating the Scarlet Witch. 0. Actually you can't say Atum is strongest. Searching. Dormammu fought against Eternity and even held his own for a time. He's probably at Shuma's. Browse AD FREE for less than 84¢ a month with an SHDb membership. In Guardians of the Galaxy #17 by Al Ewing with art by Juan Frigeri and Federico Blee, Dormammu has crossed over into the physical world by possessing Ego the Living Planet, seemingly killing the Elder and morphing his corpse into a new monstrous form. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. The best way to explain this is that Dormammu fought with an M-body of. To his surprise, Magik faced Dormammu head on - bringing her fellow X Men to Limbo for backup. Superhero Battle match: Dormammu versus Chthon. Mephisto Chthon Dormammu and Satannish would probably have no chance because the great majority of their power resides with in their own realm, but let's say they where able to transport their full potential outside the DC or Marvel multi-verse where they bump into Lucifer who has also access to all his power outside his reality, now it get's interesting. 6 years ago. In the comics, Earth 's first demon is Set, another Elder God, to whom Chthon was a younger brother. 0. 15 B. #7. 7 months ago. Clea is the daughter of Umar — Dormammu’s sister. Team Molecule Man vs Team Trigon. 68 results. Shuma-Gorath, all day and every day - Unless Dormammu gets that cosmic axis shift plot device or zopzop is writing the comic, since we all know he has a tentacle phobia. Choosing the Scarlet Witch as his avatar, Chthon attempted to mold the Scarlet Witch into an ideal vessel for him to. Though Dormammu is a much more cosmic threat than demons like Mephisto, the ancient one can certainly pack a demonic wallop. Followers. Combat. Dormammu. Honestly, I think Chthon and Dormammu are quite close to each other these days. Combat. Chthon was the world’s first dark sorcerer who mastered the art of dark magic. The ancient being Chthon serves as the source. Chthon is an Elder God and Archdemon that resides in a nether dimension adjacent to the earthly plane. Dormammu had the upper hand going against Odin, but the match ended in a draw. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. So I'll go with Vishanti for now. #1 Edited By bigcimmerian. After the Elder Gods turned on one another for power, Set took a page from Chthon's book and created a new dimension to effect an escape. Highest Weighted Strength: Dormammu. 12 years ago. The Father of the Seven Deadly Sins, the. . Shuma-Gorath is perhaps the most powerful ancient demon to ever. Umar the Unrelenting is the younger twin sister of Dormammu and like her brother is a powerful demonic creature that seeks conquest, often competing with her brother for position as the ultimate being. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. 1 / 3. There are two scenarios: 1) Chthon and Shuma-Gorath fight indirectly through the use of their minions. Ultron wins easily. Shuma Gorath vs Dormammu & Chthon. His soul became temporarily one with the universe and. 14 years ago. In the comics, Chaos Magic comes from an Elder God called Chthon, who is one of the most powerful beings that ever roamed the Earth. Shuma, at least ever since they retconned Chthon to be one of his kin. Cyttorak is a bit up in the air, its never explained how powerful he truly is. The Marvel Comics universe is home to all manner of beings and creatures. Set would get slaughter he fought either Zom or Shuma Gorath point blank. 0. If we total up all the strength values found on Marvel. Shuma Gorath. 1 B. 0. 233. MO wins easy. More Hypothetical Fights Involving Dormammu and Chthon Votes. r/shield • Dar-Benn's throne (from the upcoming The Marvels), appears to have the same Kree markings that Coulson was writing, and looks like the ObeliskChthon, Dormammu hasn't been at an Eternity-wrecking level for a long time. Atum and Chthon chronology thread in Elder God Forum i recently created, they have honstly done. he is strong enough to dab on Dormammu tho, so he. . Elder Gods came from Demiurge though, the first gods to ever being created, while the Old. While Dormammu is primarily Doctor Strange’s enemy, Scarlet Witch helped the Sorcerer Supreme battle the cosmic entity more than once, so I had to include it on the list. Some of the first vampires, such as Boy,. only on this site and the "popular" belief is worse than ComicVine or DanCo's comment section*). Chthon vs Dormammu Chthon Dormammu 26 Votes in Poll 3 Tyrannosaurus 666 · 8/23/2022 Dormammu literally uses Chthons books and Chthon. in S. doing his thing, however, contrary to POPULAR (*ahem. Great logic. He wins. Business, Economics, and Finance. Searching. com for Dormammu and Chthon we see that Dormammu has a total of 38 and Chthon has a total of 34. Choosing the Scarlet Witch as his avatar, Chthon attempted to mold the Scarlet Witch into an ideal vessel for him to. Honestly, I think Chthon and Dormammu are quite close to each other these days. 0. The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is the slightly silly moniker that this hero has earned. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Chthon?Yes, but Dormammu is the one that has been taking over other universes and fusing them with his Dark Dimension for centuries or more. Chthon has been reconnected to be one of the Old Ones, as well being an Elder God back in Carnage(2016). Forum Posts. Gen. Forum Posts. Shuma is less powerful than either of the elder gods. Chthon and Set have their full power, their powers are not limited because they are outside of their realms. Introduced in 1964's "The Domain of the Dread Dormammu!"krona blackheart loki trigon quan chi shao khan nekron pluto marquis desparo nightmare d'spyare s1 y 10 mo 26 d ago. After all, the MCU had a hard enough time getting audiences to wrap their heads around characters like Dormammu and Thanos, much less a transdimensional all-powerful being. Wiki Points. Spider-Man stands no chance against the powerful siblings and is at a serious disadvantage. He's not just a magical demon cast in his own dimension. Name: Chthon Origin: Marvel. 1 B. In the comics, Earth 's first demon is Set, another Elder God, to whom Chthon was a younger brother. Tiering System: High 2-A . As the God of Chaos, Chthon is largely responsible for creating the Scarlet Witch. @Grand Ninja said: "Shuma does. She has the darkhold, dormy doesn't. What was Dormammu’s dumbest comics moment? In 2008–09, Marvel published an infamously bad mini-series crossover called Ultimatum , set in an alternate version of the Marvel universe. Lucifer Morningstar vs Team Mandrakk (DM)Khorne/Tzentch vs Dormammu/Chthon Six-Deuce. Mephisto is a lower level demon than Chthon. actually neither of them are Dormammu is the most powerful being in the mcu shown. Galactus vs Dormammu, Mephisto & Thanos This topic is locked from further discussion. Dormammu literally uses Chthons books and Chthon scales above House of M Scarlet Witch who wiped 98% of the mutants in existence. login to vote. 107 M. You are correct that Dormammu invoking Chthon does not in and of itself mean he is greater than Dormammu. Total Up The Strength Values. Newcomers to the Dark Tower mythos. Surtur Doctor Strange vs. Sinifer was a member of the Faltine race. After all, the MCU had a hard enough time getting audiences to wrap their heads around characters like Dormammu and Thanos, much less a transdimensional all. It depends on who gets off the first attack. Mephisto Agomotto vs. @Baldy: I wonder why the logical question ( and the one that must appear in. 2 / 100% Dormammu Dormammu Earth-616. login to vote. (Chthon)>Skyfather(Odin) *FACEPALM* Galactus is not an abstract like eternity or death, he is a lesser. Clea's birth was very traumatic to Umar and the experience scarred her even more when she learned she had lost the ability to revert to her Faltinian form. #1 Edited By Seru-kai. Shuma-Gorath is multiversal afaik, but he cant enter the universe properly, so he cant fight eternity or something like that. As the exiled twins explored other. After 1 billion years of wandering the Earth, the Elder Gods became demons and started hunting one another for power. Chthon was one of the Elder Gods of Earth and the planet’s first Black magician. 0. I haven't much time to comment about it though. login to vote. 14 years ago. "-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name. Browse AD FREE for less than 84¢ a month with an SHDb membership. Chthon vs Willard H. I asked Steve Orlando as well, so maybe we're going to have a take from a writer himself. Browse AD FREE for less than 84¢ a month with an SHDb membership. Originally posted by the Darkone. Chthon is known as one of the most powerful dark magicians in all of Marvel. Two: On the planet Mercury. However from what I gather of Chthon he is kinda like the 'boss' of the elder gods for example he created the Darkholde and ias such is responsible for the creation of vampire, werewolves and other monsters. Reviews: 0. May be able to drain Set as this is the only way he. Chthon gave Scarlet Witch the ability to use chaos magic and had possessed her as his vessel on many occasions. He expanded and explored the Multiverse by creating this new reality, the Serpent's Sea. Highest Weighted Strength: Dormammu. * Dormammu:Like you. He is the. 1. Chthon vs Dormammu. Dormammu (/ d ɔːr ˈ m ɑː m uː /) is a character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Dormammu was using Chthon's Energies in DSSS#24. login to vote. The Beyonder arrives from a strange extraneous dimension, not part of the Marvel narrative, and obviously has some pretty awesome. Shuma-Gorath is perhaps the most powerful ancient demon to ever exist, with the likes of Mephisto and Dormammu claiming they are inferior to him. #SuperNerd #MarvelSo Hey Guys Welcome Back to the Channel, In this Episode of Supervillains Battle Line, am going to compare two of the Marvel's Characters w. In both cases, both combatants are at the height of their. - Elder gods include Gaea, Chthon, Set, Oshtur and Atum Demogorge. He is the brother of supervilainess Umar and the uncle of superheroine Clea who rules over the Dark Dimension. Buy Doctor Strange Comics on Amazon. D. We have a winner!Who will win in a fight between Team Dormammu and Team Chthon? Menu. Zom vs Shuma Gorath vs Chthon vs Set. The Marvel Universe is full of powerful gods, and some are older and stronger than others. After ultimately slaying their parent Sinifer, they were driven from their home dimension by the other Faltine. Shuma and Chthon reside in a Neither Realm and Dormammu resides in a Splinter Realm. Created by Erix01. Forum Posts. 13 years ago. In the time of Marvel's version of Camelot, the kingdom of King Arthur, the villainous Morgan le Fay bound the scrolls of Chthon into the first true version of the Darkhold – a book containing. User Lists: 0 #1 deathstroke40. MO wins easy. Dagoth (Marvel) Dark-Crawler. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu and Quicksilver (Possessed By Chthon)? Menu. Chthon created a mystical tome known as the Darkhold that tethered him to Earth and allowed. Trigon vs Chthon and Blackheart winner Chthon no Blackheart Round three Dormammu and Surtur vs Chthon winner Dormmamu no Surtur Winners team Dormmamu. Register Sign in. Created by TheCrazyWarrior2021. 6. 8 years ago. Who will win in a fight between Chthon and Cyttorak?The Faltine, or Faltinians, are extra-dimensional energy beings born from pure magic. . I keep reading somewhere (might be from his official bio) that Dormmamu is "older and more powerful than any Elder God", and I've read elsewhere some people saying that Dormammu is stronger than them too, including Chthon. Born untold thousands or even millions of years ago in the dimension of the vastly powerful energy-entities called the Faltine, Dormammu and his younger twin sister Umar gathered matter to themselves, a practice anathema to their fellow Faltine. -Win by any means. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. 14 B. If all of that energy were to turn physical, he would be nearly as big as Eternity. Time Trapper vs Mordru. Chthon vs Lucifer Morningstar (Depowered)Originally posted by PowerCosmic. He is known for granting humans a taste of some of his. 0. login to vote. Atum is the most powerful Elder God than Set and then Chthon. Trinity of Ashes - What? I'm pretty sure he's NEVER fought any of them. However from what I gather of Chthon he is kinda like the 'boss' of the elder gods for example he created the Darkholde and ias such is responsible for the creation of vampire, werewolves and other monsters. unable to contain her powers for much longer and heal her broken mind, Charles Xavier gathered the Avengers and the X-Men to decide the fate of the Scarlet Witch. Shuma-Gorath vs Set and Chthon. . [citation needed] Other vampires were Nosferatu, Verdelet, Saracen, Maracen, and Boy. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. unable to contain her powers for much longer and heal her broken mind, Charles Xavier gathered the Avengers and the X-Men to decide the fate of the Scarlet Witch. 0. You need to be logged in to read more comments. 1 / 3. 0. . Shuma-Gorath is featless and Chthon totally isn't. 7 B. Who will win in a fight between Dormammu & Beyonder and Chthon?Dormammu & Chthon. Dormammu is at least Skyfather level. Galactus wields the Power Cosmic in Marvel Comics. Dormammu* VS Scarlet Witch Mephisto VS Doctor Strange* Umar~ VS Doctor Fate~ Chaos King~ VS Rune King Thor~ (I'm not sure which power level this Chaos King profile is at) Sinifer VS Goku-Chthon, Dormammu, and Sinifer* VS Doctor Strange. 35. Dormammu's getting a lot better. He is known for granting humans a taste of some of his. The only thing Nightmare did was trap Eternity when he slept where as Dormammu fought him and. Strength. According to legend, Agamotto emerged from the tear of Oshtur, benevolent Elder Goddess of Earth, as she was moved by the unyielding joy of a blind boy, circa 25,000 BC, though it is now known that Agamotto was born before the Elder Gods were expelled from Earth, and was already an adult and the Sorcerer Supreme during the Stone Age, in 1,000,000 BC. . 1 B. Voting feed. #22 Edited By lord_oraculous016. As it stands however it looks like Scarlet Witch can’t defeat. Chthon has been reconnected to be one of the Old Ones, as well being an Elder God back in Carnage(2016). Dormammu is above Zarathos but not easily. He frequently finds himself in opposition to Doctor Strange, the Fantastic Four, and the Guardians of the Galaxy, serving as their formidable adversary. Shuma-Gorath is one of the overarching antagonists from the Marvel Comics. Followers. Actually you can't say Atum is strongest. 1 B. 0. Summoned 16 million souls from the realm of Death at a whim. But Gaea is below the likes of Dormammu as shown in the comics, so Chthon shouldn't have any problems defeating her anyway. #3 Edited By "Colossus". Question is, who's the top dog? As much as I want to say Shuma (we've all seen the Dr. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Dormammu and Mephisto combine their realms and begin plotting a takeover of Earth, along with Umar who has an interest in helping. Tier. Dormammu himself have battled eternity a few times, so he is on a close enough power level. Lucifer Morningstar vs Team Mandrakk (DM) Super Battle Royale - 3. Dark Dimension does not limit Galactus’ powers, but any other dimension. Daring to challenge even Eternity itself, Dormammu has. Created by TheCrazyWarrior2021. May be able to drain Set as this is the only way he. 1. 2 Eternity vs Dormammu. Team Trigon Team Dormammu. Introduced in 1964's "The Domain of the Dread Dormammu!"Arguably Doctor Strange’s third most infamous enemy behind Dormammu and Mordo, Shuma-Gorath is a natural fit for a multiverse-spanning epic. Uatu.